Girsan MC P35 Ops Part 2

I decided to answer the question of how much the extended tang means for performance shooting, first. I settled on 1 shot from the holster for 10 reps with each, Girsan and the Mk. II Browning. I worked the drill from 10 yards on an 8″ steel plate.

I started with the Girsan with no warm up draws. I wanted to handicap the red dot, even though I generally shoot iron sights just as fast. I would liked to have shot it with irons but the vestigial rear sight on the Holosun 507K leads to a lot of high shots on other guns for me.

Having not drawn a Hi Power from a holster since I last strapped one on for Steve’s funeral, the first draw with the Girsan was a might slow from the Davis Leather Omega. For me the best way to draw a standard Hi Power is to drive the web of my hand down onto the middle of the backstrap and slide under/ into the tang. A little hammer bite is certainly acceptable but the pinch between hammer and tang is bad enough for me to not get the second shot off when on the range.

Girsan MC P35 Ops vs Browning Mk. II Hi Power. The tang makes a difference in speed for me. I shoot with the thumb riding the safety and often get pinched by the hammer when the web of my hand gets over the tang.

The average for the Girsan was 1.319 seconds for one hit from the holster. You may notice that I did 11 reps because I can’t count. I only averaged the first 10. The average for the Mk. II was 1.512. The monster number was the rep after I got a significant pinch on the web of my hand. The next draw, I made the same mistake but fixed my grip before I fired the shot.

The target used for the test and you can see the booboo on the web of my hand from getting pinched from the Mk. II.

For many, their hand type or their grip method may make this a non-factor. For me, the lack of tang is the primary reason I have never carried the Hi Power seriously. The cost of having multiple guns welded up was cost prohibitive in my mind when comparing longevity to the 1911s I carried for most of my career.

Here is a look at how my hand interacts with the classic Hi Power tang when the grip is correctly applied to the gun.

I followed the draw test with a few groups shot from 25 yards with the 3 guns. I managed to keep all but a couple in the black but I wanted to leave you with some eye candy. The best group I shot was with Steve’s Number 2 Hi Power. It has a really nice trigger that contributed to the group.

25 yard standing unsupported group with “Number 2”, Steve’s second Hi Power that was customized by Lou Williamson. Groups were shot with the Mk. II and the Girsan, as well, but they were not as tight.

I finished the range session doing steel engagements with the Girsan from 12-45 yards. This required nearly 90 degree transitions from one target area to another. Though I most often shoot Glocks now, due to the job, I find the dot/ sights just appear on the Hi Power. The guns just point where they are supposed to, for me. I found no difference in the index of the gun between extended tang and the classic model. If you have the same grip issues I do and have been hesitating to get into welded up guns, I would say that the tang is worthwhile.

I fired 168 rounds in total through the Girsan in this range session, bringing the round count on the gun to 233 rounds with no failures. I will continue this test as I get time. The next thing I hope to do is shoot some rested groups and get some chronograph data with various ammunition. After that is done, I have a can of mixed old carry ammunition that is begging to be run through the gun to see if it has any trouble feeding various hollow points. This should be fun!

Comments

6 responses to “Girsan MC P35 Ops Part 2”

  1. Don Garner Avatar
    Don Garner

    Thanks for the interesting posts re: Girsan MC P35. I never could afford a real Browning, but I bought a FEG clone many years ago. I am just an old high drag, low speed, retired railway policeman. The clone actually makes me look like I can shoot. There is just something about that Browning design. Thanks for taking over the site for MS. Camp. Can’t tell you how many hours of enjoyable reading I’ve had reading Steve’s writings. By the way, Thank You for your service GI. Take care, Blessings and best regards, DG

    1. Allen Zant Avatar
      Allen Zant

      Thank you for the kind words. Most of the FEGs I have seen work just like the FN/ Browning versions. Enjoy, Allen.

  2. robert mason Avatar
    robert mason

    I second the comments above. I’m very pleased to see this site continue.
    It’s my habit to check in every so often and re-read an article or two.
    Would you be opposed to me mentioning your activity on the S&W forum? Mr. Camp is held in high regard there.

    1. Allen Zant Avatar
      Allen Zant

      You are welcome to mention the site over at S&W forum. I often pass through there and soak up some knowledge. I will have some J, K, and N frame stuff coming this fall as I do a quick tune up for Pat Rogers Memorial Revolver Roundup. Thank you for the kind words. Allen

  3. Larry Bell Avatar
    Larry Bell

    I learned of you on the S&W Forum. Thank you for picking up the torch and carrying it onward in honor of Mr. Camp. I have a fondness and have an Argentine Police crested Hi Power (circa 1962) and just love it. The knowledge here is priceless.

    1. Allen Zant Avatar
      Allen Zant

      I am honored that Mrs. Camp asked me to do this. Be sure and let me know if any of Steve’s posts you guys use for reference need to be cleaned up after the move to WordPress
      (I have most of the images that may not have transferred). I will also have some S&W stuff up on the site next month as I check zero on some guns prior to Pat Rogers Memorial Revolver Roundup at Gunsite. Allen